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Old 02-18-2010, 02:17 AM
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Default Using legato/porta on SC / VOP?

Hi there,

Just got VOP in the mail today and bought SC last month... I am enjoying both virtual instruments so far but I can't seem to get legato/porta working.

My problem is that it still sounds horribly sampled, like it was a different vocalist singing each note, even if notes are laid out in quick succession. I kind of expect the voice to slide, much like a mono synth with glide, and how I hear soloists often transition between notes.

Am I expecting too much? Am I doing it wrong? Like I said, I don't know jack about classical music as I am a self-taught 100% in-the-box EDM junkie and this serves my musical muses nicely...

Here's a quick screenshot of a very simple, brainless sequence I programmed into FL:


I would expect that at least one of the sequences appearing under beats 1 and 3 that the singer's voice would naturally slide between notes, but in both cases there does not appear to be an audible transition and the sequence sounds very sampler-ish. I run in to this with Choirs a lot too, and it is frustrating... though like I said I just got the product and I have little experience or training with creating nice-sounding performances with sampled classical instruments.

If it's somehow a limitation of the DAW, I'd like to point out that I have others at my disposal... but even with standalone, playing sequences on the keyboard, everything by default seems really sampled.

Looking to extract a bit more authenticity out of these lovely sample libraries. Any pointers?

Thanks!

Tom
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:54 AM
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Vocal products usually have a learning curve to get the desired results. I suggest you watch the tutorials Nick made here -

http://www.soundsonline.com/product....oductid=EW-174

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Old 02-18-2010, 08:56 AM
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My only hint is to activate Solo in the interface and then also maybe use a little longer Attack, somewhere around 200-500 ms to avoid the sharp jumps between each note...
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You have to use the mod wheel for more realism, please watch the videos.

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Old 02-18-2010, 02:18 PM
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My guess is that the true legato samples in VOP are on the modwheel just like the ones of the Gypsy violin. In this case you have to turn the modwheel up to a certain velocity to get different samples. The ranges are most likely displayed in the articulation window.
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Thanks, will check the videos out.
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I have no modwheel, but a joystick. It's terrible to play legato/portamento with my setup
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