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Old 10-17-2018, 01:49 PM
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Question PCIE vs SATA: Which is better for storing samples?

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I am trying to decide which type of hard drive I need to store my samples. The plan is to start with at least 1 TB of SSD memory in an internal drive, housed in a Thunderbolt 3 enclosure. Is PCIE worth the extra money, or would a SATA connection be fast enough?

This is the PCIE hard drive and enclosure I am thinking about buying:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LXS4TY6/ref=emc_b_5_t

https://www.amazon.com/XT-XINTE-USB3...enclosure&th=1
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:43 AM
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Hey isaacc,

the faster one (PCIe) is obviously the better one.
Well, that was the tl;dr version of it.

SATA is an older interface from 2003 (I think), so most computers are
compatible with it. SATA 3.0 is the most widely available form of SSD,
which has a theoretical transfer speed of 6 Gb/s (750 MB/s).
But due to some physical overhead that occurs when encoding the data for
transfer, it actually has a practical transfer speed of 4.8 Gb/s (600 MB/s).

PCIe, or Peripheral Component Interconnect Express, can be thought of as
a direct extension of the Motherboard. In contrast to SATA, PCIe uses lanes
to determine the speed. Physical PCI Express links may contain from one to
32 lanes, more precisely 1, 2, 4, 8, 12, 16 or 32 lanes.

The corresponding speeds of PCIe are per lane:
v3.x 985 MB/s || v4.x 1.969 GB/s || v5.x 3.938 GB/s

You gave a link to M.2 (2280) - PCIe 3.0 x4 NVM Express SSD,
so that'll be 985*4 = 3940 MB/s for your theoretical bandwidth. The
sequential read speed that Samsung gave is lower. It would definitely
be a lot faster than a SATA 3 SSD.

The downside is the following: Since it's a new connection,
please make sure that it is fully compatible with your MoBo!


EDIT: I removed a paragraph concerning outdated information.

I hope that helps.
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:06 AM
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Is it true that if you combine Pcie drive with sata drives. The system will run at the lower sata speed
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I think you mean PCI enclosure with SATA drive?

The maximum speed will always be the theoretical speed of the lowest connection.
E.g., using SATA / Thunderbolt connectors with USB will immediately limit to USB speeds.
Using PCIe enclosure with SATA drive will then limit to SATA speeds.
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Old 10-21-2018, 01:05 PM
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Quote:
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I think you mean PCI enclosure with SATA drive?

The maximum speed will always be the theoretical speed of the lowest connection.
E.g., using SATA / Thunderbolt connectors with USB will immediately limit to USB speeds.
Using PCIe enclosure with SATA drive will then limit to SATA speeds.
This is what i ment.
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