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Old 08-13-2009, 03:18 PM
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Makes sense 2 me pal!
So, the next question is....

WHO do you recommend for DAW builders?
And which system would you get if you were in the market?
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:34 PM
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Makes sense 2 me pal!
So, the next question is....

WHO do you recommend for DAW builders?
And which system would you get if you were in the market?
Recommending a DAW builder would depend on where you live.

My next system will be a dual quad or dual six core or dual eight core with 36GB RAM. I'm not sure when I'm getting it though. Either later this year, when it will be a dual quad, or next year when it could be a dual 6 or 8 core.

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Old 08-13-2009, 07:52 PM
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I always seemed to trust ADK Pro Audio....for some reason I just trust them.

But they go beyond my budget...I can't afford them.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:32 PM
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but if you have the budget to buy a Mac Pro, then a similar costing PC from a reputable builder will have no more issues, and probably less. It will also work better. These are facts, not opinion.
This is absolute opinion. You can call your opinions facts if you want, but that does not make it so. You're entitled to your opinions though.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:47 PM
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So, the next question is....

WHO do you recommend for DAW builders?
PC Audiolabs.

Just got the laptop they built for me. Looks totally awesome. Just staring at it right now. A Beast.
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This is absolute opinion. You can call your opinions facts if you want, but that does not make it so. You're entitled to your opinions though.
Which part is opinion?

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Old 08-14-2009, 08:59 AM
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PC Audiolabs.

Just got the laptop they built for me. Looks totally awesome. Just staring at it right now. A Beast.
Please let me know how it works out for you.
If you can, please do a partial bench of the system with your DAW, please

Or if you can tell me what results the builder gave you when running
maximum track count, plug-in count, cpu usage data, RAM usage, quantity of said RAM
and all of the fun stuff... I'd love to get one as well...
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:15 AM
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This is absolute opinion. You can call your opinions facts if you want, but that does not make it so. You're entitled to your opinions though.
Rav, think about something for a second...

Daryl simply said that if one simply has a big budget for a DAW (in buying a MAC)
a similar costing PC from a *REPUTABLE BUILDER* will have no more issues. He could have done without the probably less part as that is an opinion If I've ever seen one because he may be speaking from personal experience, which equates to his personal knowledge, his personal view as fact...

Sure, he also said it will work better, and this IS also personal opinion, but it's pretty easy to weed out conjecture
based on personal experience, AND absolute FACT. It is also conceivable to note
*many* people love their MAC's, just like *many* people love their PC's.

Unless Daryl polled EVERY single DAW (both PC and MAC) user on this Planet
he cannot speak about it as if it were fact, however try to take into consideration,
that those opinions were based on Daryl, having, and using a reputable DAW builder behind his system...

When things, work....WE, the consumer are happy to spread the word when asked.

DAW builders don't just assemble the machine and ship it.
Even Velocity Micro (my DAW builder) bench tests the crap out of the system to make sure it is stable, optimized for maximum performance, and proper burn in... (in a DAW builder's case this would be audio rendering, sample loading etc) as opposed to my system, which was built for stability, maximum frame rate, fast processing, maximum heat dissipation, as well as looking *t!ts* from the interior...

The protocol IS the same.

Now, *you* can call things opinion, even when they are fact.
I get this all of the time with many people because they don't extrapolate what I (attempt) to convey.

Rav, I'm not sure what you base your *opinions* on, but if they are from personal
experience in a negative fashion, this could skew an otherwise unbiased point of view.

PC's have scorned me ever since I've used them, but I have *never* had a DAW builder assemble me
a system that costs $4Ggrand (SRP) until I got this one (which is a PC)

It is the MOST rock hard, solid/stable piece of hardware I've ever owned...And, while I sometimes
dislike it when people are right...guess what?

A DAW builder knows what they are doing, when they are knowledgeable, professional, and put out machines that *just work* -as most people think/report via word of mouth a MAC should, or simply does work.

AN Audio Rendering DAW Builder cross every T, dots every I.
My gaming rig didn't come fully optimized, hence my issues before Persentio posted that SweetWater link.

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Old 08-15-2009, 12:26 AM
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Now, *you* can call things opinion, even when they are fact.
One can do that, but one would be wrong.

I have five fingers on my right hand. That's a fact. My right hand works better than your right hand. That's an opinion. (Not one I subscribe too, just an example.)

"will have no more issues" is a prediction, not a fact. Might be true, might not be.
"probably less," a guess, not a fact. Potentially true or false.
"It will also work better." subjective, and not a fact.

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Rav, I'm not sure what you base your *opinions* on, but if they are from personal
experience in a negative fashion, this could skew an otherwise unbiased point of view.
I don't know what this means. What's negative? I just pointed out the obvious. I stand by my prior post.

As far as the theme of this thread, I think both Macs and PCs can be fantastic DAWs. They can both be plenty fast and plenty stable.

Glad you have a "MOST rock hard, solid/stable piece of hardware" you've ever owned. I'm sure you'll make some great music with it.
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Old 08-15-2009, 12:45 AM
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One can do that, but one would be wrong.

I have five fingers on my right hand. That's a fact. My right hand works better than your right hand. That's an opinion.
No...I'm pretty sure that would be a fact or not a fact.....

Here's a better example.

Fact: Dodgers are the best baseball team in the world.
Opinion: I think that Manny Ramirez might have a pet squirrel.
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