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i have a new windows laptop (pc) which meets the specs needed to use EWQLSO Gold edition.... i have cubase elements, notion 6 and EWQLSO Gold.....how should i install these three software packages (in what order) and when should i install ASIO4all on my laptop so i can compose on the laptop????


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I would install in this order...

1) Cubase
2) Notion
3) ASIO4all (although I would personally opt for a USB audio interface instead)
4) I would install the virtual instruments last (EastWest, etc), and on a dedicated external drive for sure.
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The order of Installation does not matter. If you want to set your audio drivers on the very first startup of cubase, install asio4all before installing cubase. If you're worried about having multiple plugin folders, you can select the plugin destinations on Cubase and Play Installation, manually move vst plugins or add different plugin folders in the cubase preferences.

If you don't need to record some instruments, an external audio interface is not necessarily needed. Latency may improve a little if you invest good money into the interface and don't run it on USB hubs. For me however ASIO4ALL had better latency results than low-end interfaces like Steinberg UR22MK2.

@JSpencer: are there any benefits of installing libraries on external harddrives? I'm not sure if the current USB speed is faster than SSDs on SATA3 or internal M.2 SSDs.
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Installation Order: Theoretically, it doesn't matter whatsoever.
The individual programs don't truly interact with one another during the
installation process.

However, there is a certain logic to having a proper order:

Cubase / Notion: Doesn't matter which one is installed first. These two programs
have absolutely no interaction between one another, so there also won't be
any problems during installation.

Play + IC / EW: After Cubase, install the Installation Center (link). From the
Installation Center, you can also download the latest Play engine you are eligible for.

The EW libraries themselves have to be downloaded / installed via the IC. If you
have downloaded Play prior to the libraries, it will help you skip a few steps concerning
the location of the library sample path directory.

Last ASIO4ALL: Upon Installation, re-check that the Play and Cubase options
have updated themselves appropriately.

Audio Interface: I can't comment on the UR22MKii (only have used the US22 predecessor
before). They definitely lower the latency and also improve the overall sound quality.
It's true, however, that they can be extremely pricy, if you choose top-quality products.

The Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and the Steinberg UR series are good options.

Harddrives: The location of the harddrives is completely irrelevant.
The only important thing is the connection. Check my sig for a short article.

Jeremy was correct that dedicated sample harddrives will indeed result in the
most optimal performance concerning sample streaming. In Play, you have the
option to select how much is streamed from disc / RAM under
Settings > Streaming > Sample Cache.
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ok thanks for the information......


another quick question(s)....

once i have everything installed can i use the headphone jack on the computer to hear the software samples through my head phones?


there is only one hard drive in the laptop is that a problem my scores are not going to be that big .....????
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What are the specs on the internal hard drive? Speed, type, etc.
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Shouldn't be a problem, if properly routed.

As long as that harddrive is not the OS drive,
then the main problem is alleviated. The rpm
rate and the internal connection are good to
know to accurately gauge the answer, though.
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the hard drive is a 7200 rpm internal drive but I'm fairly sure the os is on that drive heres the link to the machine


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAC886RG6570


it will work, right?
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The OS drive is the SSD. That's standard practice for laptop manufacturers.
That HDD is a 7200rpm drive, so all's good there.

You probably already have stuff on there? It only means that the drive is not going
to be a dedicated samples drive, which I'd usually recommend if you're going
down the fully professional route.
As is, as long as you moderate the amount of samples being simultaneously streamed,
then you have nothing to worry about!

To achieve the above, you'll probably need to bounce to audio a bit more often.
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The OS drive is the SSD. That´s standard practice for laptop manufacturers.
That HDD is a 7200rpm drive, so all´s good there.

You probably already have stuff on there? It only means that the drive is not going
to be a dedicated samples drive, which I´d usually recommend if you´re going
down the fully professional route.
As is, as long as you moderate the amount of samples being simultaneously streamed,
then you have nothing to worry about!

To achieve the above, you´ll probably need to bounce to audio a bit more often.
ok great news thanks a million for your help.
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