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Old 12-24-2016, 07:31 PM
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Default HS basses panned to the right?

I'm aware of the built in panning that HS has, but it is annoying me how the basses are panned to the right. I use HS Gold, and other than going into Mono mode, I don't know how to get the basses to sound down the center. Any ideas?
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Old 12-25-2016, 07:42 AM
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Shouldn't panning the Main mics solve this "problem" without going mono? You can't activate other mics with Gold, but you can use the pan knob for the main mics.
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Old 12-25-2016, 09:58 AM
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I it is annoying me how the basses are panned to the right.
Are they panned to the right, or are they on the right b/c they were recorded that way (in proper position)?
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I do not use gold for Hollywood Orchestra, but cant you just pan it center, either in PLAY or in the DAW as well?

Personally, the only reason I would move them is if I were trying to get a classical orchestral setup with celli and bass on the left.
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Are they panned to the right, or are they on the right b/c they were recorded that way (in proper position)?
Sorry, they are not panned, they are on the right because they were recorded that way. Do you hear the same thing in your HS? It seems odd that basses would be recored on the right. If I pan them to the center, they lose volume and clarity.
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Why would this be odd? It's the standard symphonic orchestra seating.

Cf. http://www.english-online.at/music/o...-orchestra.gif
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Old 12-26-2016, 01:57 PM
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Ah I see. Well it becomes somewhat of an issue with movie scores, whic seems to often have a very central bass. Hans Zimmerman, for instance. I guess the solution is to just layer with other basses as he does or add some mono stringed bass?
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Sometimes what I do is use my BX Digital V2 or V3 and it will centralize frequencies at a user defined set point, like say ~75htz+/- and below. I like the more centralized low frequency sound even though it's not the traditional way to go. Plus you could set it up so that it has a central bass sound as well as the standard bass orchestral placement.
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Hans Zimmerman

LOL!

What movie scores have bass panned to the center? Most do not. Some do, I am sure, as there are different seating arrangements that can be had.

In the case of Hans Zimmer, he often does things in a non-conventional way, so when it comes to learning how to orchestrate and how to mix, he is not the guy you want to look to. Once you learn the basics and all of the rules, then you can start to break them, and then you can look to HZ for influence. But not before then.
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Hans Zimmerman

LOL!

What movie scores have bass panned to the center? Most do not. Some do, I am sure, as there are different seating arrangements that can be had.

In the case of Hans Zimmer, he often does things in a non-conventional way, so when it comes to learning how to orchestrate and how to mix, he is not the guy you want to look to. Once you learn the basics and all of the rules, then you can start to break them, and then you can look to HZ for influence. But not before then.
Excellent advice, Jeff.
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