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Old 05-25-2018, 12:04 AM
richbatsford richbatsford is offline
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Default Using the QL Piano as a solo instrument / mastering

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Im using the QL Piano for my classically influenced piano solos and am wondering if anyone else here is as also using it for solo piano recordings?

Also Id really appreciate any feedback on whether anyone recommends getting the tracks professionally mastered or if there is little enough to change that an amateur can do it.

in case anyone wants to listen to what Im doing, theres an almost but not quite signed off as finished track linked to below

thanks, Rich

https://www.dropbox.com/s/64frb3aoes...Jewel.wav?dl=0
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:49 PM
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Hey Rich!

You don't necessarily have to master your piano tracks. Often I like to just keep them "natural"...but for commercial releases I often use a service called "LANDR" (with the very soft lvl. 1 mastering option)!

...but for the sake of comparison, check out a mastered, commercial album release of mine (of course done with the still excellent EWQL Steinway/Bösendorfer):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdmcWAOrTqg

...versus a non-mastered, slightly more soft music track (EWQL Pianos + two Cellos):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FneCaHmBrZw

PS: Pity that your music can't be accessed anymore...would love to check it out!

Rock on!
-Frederic

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Old 10-12-2018, 12:38 AM
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hi Folks

Im using the QL Piano for my classically influenced piano solos and am wondering if anyone else here is as also using it for solo piano recordings?

Also Id really appreciate any feedback on whether anyone recommends getting the tracks professionally mastered or if there is little enough to change that an amateur can do it.

in case anyone wants to listen to what Im doing, theres an almost but not quite signed off as finished track linked to below

thanks, Rich

https://www.dropbox.com/s/64frb3aoes...Jewel.wav?dl=0
I tried using your link but it seems it is not working...
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:42 AM
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Hey Rich!

You don't necessarily have to master your piano tracks. Often I like to just keep them "natural"...but for commercial releases I often use a service called "LANDR" (with the very soft lvl. 1 mastering option)!

...but for the sake of comparison, check out a mastered, commercial album release of mine (of course done with the still excellent EWQL Steinway/Bösendorfer):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdmcWAOrTqg

...versus a non-mastered, slightly more soft music track (EWQL Pianos + two Cellos):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FneCaHmBrZw


PS: Pity that your music can't be accessed anymore...would love to check it out!

Rock on!
-Frederic

fredericbernardmusic.com
I listen to your piano music, lovely music and good audio quality. Can I ask what did you do to the stereo field? Out of the box QL piano sounds like the high tones are more to the right and the low tones are more to the left.
Your mastering sound different (very good)...
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:44 PM
FredericBernard FredericBernard is offline
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I think I didn't changed the stereo panning...if I did, it's possibly just a very slight difference.

Once again; for mastering I can only advise to subscribe for LANDR. It's not that cheap, with a monthly price of around 40 USD...but theoretically you could just subscribe for one month and master all your tracks, and then unsubscribe!

If you don't want to spend money, just give Audacity a try! It's a completely free, but although amazing software tool! There you can easily normalize, compress, do aural limiting, put additional reverb, or put fade ins/fade outs!

Btw, the original question is very good - when I was starting out to sell my stuff commercially I also wondered if I should master my piano music, or if I should just leave all of it 'natural'. Still, even with piano music, most people like loud music much more, opposed to less loud music. Especially in electronic music/pop, quit music will most likely always loose! But in the classical music world this matter is seen a bit differently. There's really nothing worse, than a classical piano recording with max. compression/limiting...it really can ruin the whole recording way too easily! So, if you ask me I'd always vote for the more 'puristic' approach, leaving piano music only slightly mastered.

I would like to share another two EWQL Piano recording versions (can't remember if it either was Bösi or Steinway - they are both equally devine anyway...especially the high tones...still wow, after all those years!!). One is mastered, while the other one follows the more 'natural approach', check them out!

Mrs. Trigger Finger, Mastered:
https://soundcloud.com/fredericberna...trigger-finger

Mrs. Trigger Finger, Unmastered
https://soundcloud.com/fredericberna...d-vers/s-r7k6b

...also, here is a visualised comparison of both versions, on whichs amplitudes you easily see the difference:


PS: Still, these are pretty soft masters, if you compare them to others; I think my loudest work by far, is an orchestral track mixed by J. Rodd: Kitchen Fiasco. FYI: all the recordings are using the player's mic exclusively! Soom individuals like it to mix the player's mic with the others, but I never saw any need for doing that. Guess it is a very subjective thing at the end, like always .

Hope that helps!

Cheers!
-Frederic

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