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Old 11-12-2012, 11:48 AM
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This type of library is first on my 'want' list. As long as it's comprehensive and not half-a$$ed.

I can't agree more with Dick the Flick. The 'epic (what an over/misused word!) orchestra' has run its course. At least to anyone with taste. I don't mean the execution of large, widely scoped orchestral music, but rather the way it's produced and sounds.

Also mentioning documentaries is spot on. While I'd rather not rely on sample libraries to concede to budget cutting film production companies, thus further adding to the devaluing and misunderstanding of music in general, specialist musicians are very hard to come by. Documentaries lend themselves greatly to these instruments, as they're far more reflective in nature.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:33 PM
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Absolutely B.P. ...... agree agree and thrice agree! DtF x
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How about these? The crumhorn, gemshorn, and dulcian?
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@Altauria You're very condescending and negative. Why so bitter? ;D You don't need to slag other things off to make a point, -that- just devalues your actual point :-)

The library idea is interesting, but personally I'd rate it pretty far down the list of instrument sounds I enjoy hearing.

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@Altauria You're very condescending and negative. Why so bitter? ;D You don't need to slag other things off to make a point, -that- just devalues your actual point :-)

The library idea is interesting, but personally I'd rate it pretty far down the list of instrument sounds I enjoy hearing.

I'm sorry Jonathan but I don't really understand your reaction to Altauria? I didn't read this as "condescending and negative ". (perhaps the "anyone with taste" comment was a over egging things a little ... but I don't think Brian was being seriously bitter .... perhaps a little over enthusiastic?! )

I simply read it as observation. Which part of the note did you feel "just devalued the actual point?"
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:49 AM
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and lutes, harsichord, hautbois etc ...... anything early European medieval or any folk instruments.

I predict an imminent boredom threshold with symphonic sounding scores for commissioners of movie scores, video games and all known manner of media. (i've composed and produced many myself ..... with and without orchestras)

Kids working on laptops in bedrooms are producing amazing sounding scores on minor BBC documentaries in the UK for free (ie to "get themselves a name in the business, they compose and produce music for no fee") ... but sadly they are all starting to sound the same.

Cheap budget docs with very low production value have been the first to be oversubscribed by epic symphonic music ..... so the equation is fast becoming:-

EPIC SYMPHONIC SOUNDING = CHEAP SOUNDING

I have a good high ranking friend in the BBC Music dept in London who has recently expressed a worry that directors no longer ere towards "real" symphony scores on drama productions because they now find it difficult to tell the difference between the sample library stuff and sessions with musicians! WHAT A SIGN OF THE TIMES.

Amazing sounding epic scores are apparently becoming very unfashionable amongst those great doyens of taste and cool ..... directors.

We've shot ourselves in the foot.

However what sample libraries like East West have done with their sophisticated development of technology is enable their R & D depts to open the door for sampling many other genres of instrument ..... MORE LIKE THAT PRETTY PLEASE!
Maybe in England, but here in North America I have found the exact opposite. For the directors I have worked with, they WANT the big, epic orchestral sounds. There's nothing worse than a documentary with synthy MIDI "orchestral" tracks.
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I absolutely agree. There IS nothing worse than a doc with synthy MIDI "orchestra" ... I think what I'm probably suggesting (rather ineptly) is that due to there having been so much time and money invested in recreating the feel and quality of a large (epic) orchestra, perhaps with something as incredible as Hollywood Strings and Brass being on the market (for a few hundred pounds) the holy grail is in any professional musicians grasp, and indeed its resulting wide spread proliferation, means we have to be careful that over use of this easily accessible (high quality) sound, doesn't oversaturate the market and become last week's news due to it being everyone's "go to" solution.
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