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Old 01-18-2018, 04:31 AM
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Default Legato Transitions in Hollywood Orchestra Diamond

Hi all,

I have a theory that I'd like to put forward for discussion/critique.

In the Hollywood legato patches (strings/winds/brass etc.), I know that there are many layers of vibrato/timbre/loudness etc. The transitions between these are very smooth over long notes.

However, I find the legato transitions between notes are quite noticeable except at specific CC 11 and CC 1 values.

I have a theory that although many different vibrato/timbral/loudness levels were recorded for each note, the actual transitions between notes were only captured at one vibrato/timbral/loudness level. Therefore this transition between notes often sounds unnatural because it doesn't always match the vibrato/timbral/loudness level of the notes on either side of the transition.

To further support this theory is my thought that it would be impossible for Play to 'predict' what vibrato/timbral/loudness level the note after the transition will be played at. Therefore there would be no way of correctly matching the transition between notes to the notes on either side.

For this reason I often use sustain articulations instead with a small overlap between notes.

Has anyone else found this? I'd love to hear other opinions, particularly those who disagree with me.

Matt
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Old 01-18-2018, 02:22 PM
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I think you're over analyzing it

The sustain patches are not legato. I personally love the legato patches and think they sound wonderful.....the most realistic I've heard (and used) in the VI world.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:16 AM
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While this isn't as noticeable on the strings and brass, I found this to be the reason why the woodwind library isn't as good. The legatos seem to be recorded at a rather loud vibrato level. This makes playing soft legato lines being a big challenge where you need to play with the legato volume or with the velocity controlled legato speeds. I actually use the woodwinds without legato except for the bassoon.
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Old 01-21-2018, 06:58 PM
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Yes. I find the same thing with the woodwinds. Strings and Brass are great but not the woodwinds,
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Old 01-23-2018, 01:02 AM
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I agree with both analysis and evaluations. I only use the "sim legato" for woodwinds.
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Old 01-23-2018, 04:05 AM
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I find myself turning down the volume of the legato transitions slightly in Play. In general HOW is more 2nd/layering library. I have better woodwinds from other devs. Strings, Brass and Percussion are still my primary livs for those sections.
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