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Old 05-15-2019, 03:54 AM
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I have recently started making music again after taking a break for a few years. I've been using EastWest's Composer Cloud through FL Studio 11. Of late I have noticed that my tracks are starting to have a bit of peaky buffering effect when playing through - like the PC can't handle it. In some instances I may have up to 20 instances of Composer Cloud Play running playing different instruments along with a moltitude of effects. When I try to export to MP3 I either become stuck at 0% or the mp3 conversion will finish but there will be no sound in the mp3 file. I've tried other formats including wav and FLAC and the same thing happens. I've uninstalled and reinstalled and the result in the same.



I've attached a screenshot of my PC performance below during playback. Nothing really stands out to me but I am no expert.



I am assuming all of the above happens because my PC can't handle it. Would this be correct? If an upgrade is required to handle what I am doing what should I be looking at?



Any help would be appreciated.



System Specs

Windows 10 Pro

Processor: Intel i7-4770 @ 3.4ghz, 3401mhz, 4 cores, 8 logical processors

16gb Ram

Hard Drive: Samsung SSD 840 Series 250gb / 23gb free

Interface: mbox2

Controller: M-Audio Oxygen 49

DAW: FL Studio 11
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:23 AM
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Hey,

Of late I have noticed that my tracks are starting to have a bit of peaky
buffering effect when playing through - like the PC can't handle it. In some
instances I may have up to 20 instances of Composer Cloud Play running
playing different instruments along with a moltitude of effects.


Which libraries are you using? Different libraries will result in different resource usage.

I only have one issue with your current setup, and that is the harddrive which
is being used. You are using your Operating System harddrive for sample streaming.
The OS drive will always have background programs reading and writing to the same
drive which will result in a higher latency.

I'd recommend an additional dedicated sample library drive for streaming.

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Go to the Plugin Wrapper preferences/settings > processing and make sure
both “Use Fixed Size Buffers” and “Notify about rendering mode” are selected.

https://www.image-line.com/support/f...ns/wrapper.htm


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Here are a few things, which you can do to improve your DAW capabilities:

- Turn off WIFI and BlueTooth
- Unplug your LAN cable (basically, get off the internet)
- Turn off all background programs such as security etc.
Depending on your security settings, these might actually
be scanning the samples prior to them loading / playing.
- Only open your DAW. Check how many programs are
automatically run upon startup.

NOTE: Please remember that the turned off security settings
should be re-enabled prior to connecting to the internet again!

- Bounce to Audio and use a .wav file instead of live playback. This
will result in less system resources being used, but the downside
is that it can't be edited anymore - You can export the MIDI in addition, of course.

p. 19: The Sample Cache feature allows you to determine how many
of the samples are loaded directly into RAM or are streamed from the drive.
Test out different levels to see what works best for you.
p. 56: The Sample Purge feature allows you to remove any not used
samples from the RAM.
http://www.soundsonline-forums.com/d...ser-Manual.pdf

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Thanks Lorenz.

I will try what you have suggested.

Thanks again for your help.
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And the librariea I do use most are ghostwriter and symphonic orchestra and the dark side.
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Alright. - Ghostwriter 56GB, The Dark Side 38GB and Symphonic Orchestra 33GB
comes to a total of 127GB. I'd pretty much say that's a maxed out drive. Depending
on the exact patch which you're using, it's simply too much for it.
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Thanks Lorenz. I thought that might be the case. I will look at getting a new HDD with a HDD Dock. Is there any spec and size on the type of HDD and dock I should get?

Would something like this do the job? https://imgur.com/jKmbOgz
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7200rpm or SSD drive with a max size of 1TB due to the "bandwidth issue".
Drive format should be NTFS. The allocation unit size is pretty much irrelevant.

The drive connection itself. Also referred to as the bandwidth, this is important,
as this determines how much you can transfer from the drive to the computer.
And this is theoretically problematic. If the drive rpm is higher than the bandwidth,
then you will experience a throttle in this scenario. The rpm rate might allow for a
theoretically higher read speed, but the bandwidth limits the potential.

This also means, that having 2x 1TB 450mb/s is better than 1x 2TB 450mb/s,
since the former will allow you for more simultaneous reads, even though the GB size
is exactly the same.

I'm not too familiar with drive docks, but if the read speeds are achieved,
then there shouldn't be an issue with it. That specific one also states that
it doesn't need any additional drivers (if I read that correctly), so that's
an additional bonus.
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